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		<title>By: Noble</title>
		<link>http://americainshort.com/2009/01/19/hemingwayfitzgerald/#comment-585</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 07:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(And now I await &quot;moderation.&quot; Indeed.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(And now I await &#8220;moderation.&#8221; Indeed.)</p>
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		<title>By: Noble</title>
		<link>http://americainshort.com/2009/01/19/hemingwayfitzgerald/#comment-584</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 07:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems like you might have your Farewell to Arms mixed up with your For Whom The Bell Tolls, joe. 

Nick doesn&#039;t seal the deal? Really? Bet he does. You need a sex scene? If he doesn&#039;t fall for Jordan, surely he beds her. But he doesn&#039;t fall because she&#039;s a lightweight, because she&#039;s dishonest and a cheater, and she, like Daisy, &quot;smashes things up&quot; and then &quot;retreats into [her] vast carelessness.&quot;  She&#039;s a fling, an erstwhile lover in a paired-up summer.  She&#039;s the hot but simple-minded blonde you meet while vacationing at your uncle&#039;s: you gotta have her, but you don&#039;t wanna keep her.

Best TGG line? &quot;The lawn started at the beach and ran toward the front door for a quarter of a mile, jumping over sun-dials and brick walks and burning gardens - finally when it reached the house drifting up the side in bright vines as though from the momentum of its run.&quot; Like to write me one sentence that vivid in my life...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like you might have your Farewell to Arms mixed up with your For Whom The Bell Tolls, joe. </p>
<p>Nick doesn&#8217;t seal the deal? Really? Bet he does. You need a sex scene? If he doesn&#8217;t fall for Jordan, surely he beds her. But he doesn&#8217;t fall because she&#8217;s a lightweight, because she&#8217;s dishonest and a cheater, and she, like Daisy, &#8220;smashes things up&#8221; and then &#8220;retreats into [her] vast carelessness.&#8221;  She&#8217;s a fling, an erstwhile lover in a paired-up summer.  She&#8217;s the hot but simple-minded blonde you meet while vacationing at your uncle&#8217;s: you gotta have her, but you don&#8217;t wanna keep her.</p>
<p>Best TGG line? &#8220;The lawn started at the beach and ran toward the front door for a quarter of a mile, jumping over sun-dials and brick walks and burning gardens &#8211; finally when it reached the house drifting up the side in bright vines as though from the momentum of its run.&#8221; Like to write me one sentence that vivid in my life&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Just pull the chord. &#171; America in Short</title>
		<link>http://americainshort.com/2009/01/19/hemingwayfitzgerald/#comment-109</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 2, 2009 by timpadraic    When Hemingway was 29 years old, his young life in Paris ended. On a warmer than usual March night, after too much [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: timpadraic</title>
		<link>http://americainshort.com/2009/01/19/hemingwayfitzgerald/#comment-16</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[erin, 

hmmm....  i&#039;d be curious to see writing that doesn&#039;t seem to be seen through a lens.  but i definitely agree on the distance.  and as much as it his writing technique, i can&#039;t help but think that this was his philosophy on life.  hemmie was a poet constantly shifting the world through his lens... he would fish and not quite let himself get caught up in his excitement, but rather, feel his excitement and go about noticing the things that led up to it, the things he felt, and the reactions of those around him as the fish would come in...  i feel like as a writer, he forced that sense of removal.  it&#039;s almost a buddhist-like meditation.  you see your thoughts and feelings, and experience them, but you watch them go by as a flowing stream.  and with that, you aren&#039;t swimming in them, but existing just outside.  

whether or not he was trying to do this, or failing at doing something else and ending up with this... i dunno.  but this is why i like reading him, and why forcing myself through pages of misogynistic banter is sometimes worth it.

anyway.  you&#039;re one of my favorites right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>erin, </p>
<p>hmmm&#8230;.  i&#8217;d be curious to see writing that doesn&#8217;t seem to be seen through a lens.  but i definitely agree on the distance.  and as much as it his writing technique, i can&#8217;t help but think that this was his philosophy on life.  hemmie was a poet constantly shifting the world through his lens&#8230; he would fish and not quite let himself get caught up in his excitement, but rather, feel his excitement and go about noticing the things that led up to it, the things he felt, and the reactions of those around him as the fish would come in&#8230;  i feel like as a writer, he forced that sense of removal.  it&#8217;s almost a buddhist-like meditation.  you see your thoughts and feelings, and experience them, but you watch them go by as a flowing stream.  and with that, you aren&#8217;t swimming in them, but existing just outside.  </p>
<p>whether or not he was trying to do this, or failing at doing something else and ending up with this&#8230; i dunno.  but this is why i like reading him, and why forcing myself through pages of misogynistic banter is sometimes worth it.</p>
<p>anyway.  you&#8217;re one of my favorites right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin Kern</title>
		<link>http://americainshort.com/2009/01/19/hemingwayfitzgerald/#comment-15</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 03:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know what your misguided friend means about the confusing noun-verb structure of Hemingway.  I actually just read a short essay by James Thurber this morning about that.  I&#039;m gonna copy down some of it to prove your friend&#039;s point that it&#039;s impossible for the reader to fully grasp the moment: 
&quot;A Visit from Saint Nicholas; In the Ernest Hemingway Manner:
It was the night before Christmas.  The house was very quiet.  No creatures were stirring in the house.  There weren&#039;t even any mice stirring.  The stockings had been hung carefully by the chimney.  The children hoped that Saint Nicholas would come and fill them.
...
&#039;Father,&#039; the children said, 
There was no answer.  He&#039;s there, all right, they thought. 
&#039;Father,&#039; they said, and banged on their beds.
&#039;What do you want?&#039; I asked.
&#039;We have visions of sugarplums,&#039; the children said.
...
&#039;Can we have any sugarplums?&#039;
&#039;You can&#039;t have any sugarplums,&#039; said mamma.&quot; 
Okay, you get the idea.  There&#039;s something very immediate in his writing, but it also gives you the sense that you are watching the events transpire through a lens.  It&#039;s certainly more removed, and it ellicits a feeling of helplessness, much like you get when reading Marguerite Duras, who famously wrote many of her works in script-form, even though she had little intention of them being used as a script.  She wanted that Hemingway-ian distance.  
At any rate, capital job.  You are a phenom writer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what your misguided friend means about the confusing noun-verb structure of Hemingway.  I actually just read a short essay by James Thurber this morning about that.  I&#8217;m gonna copy down some of it to prove your friend&#8217;s point that it&#8217;s impossible for the reader to fully grasp the moment:<br />
&#8220;A Visit from Saint Nicholas; In the Ernest Hemingway Manner:<br />
It was the night before Christmas.  The house was very quiet.  No creatures were stirring in the house.  There weren&#8217;t even any mice stirring.  The stockings had been hung carefully by the chimney.  The children hoped that Saint Nicholas would come and fill them.<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8216;Father,&#8217; the children said,<br />
There was no answer.  He&#8217;s there, all right, they thought.<br />
&#8216;Father,&#8217; they said, and banged on their beds.<br />
&#8216;What do you want?&#8217; I asked.<br />
&#8216;We have visions of sugarplums,&#8217; the children said.<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8216;Can we have any sugarplums?&#8217;<br />
&#8216;You can&#8217;t have any sugarplums,&#8217; said mamma.&#8221;<br />
Okay, you get the idea.  There&#8217;s something very immediate in his writing, but it also gives you the sense that you are watching the events transpire through a lens.  It&#8217;s certainly more removed, and it ellicits a feeling of helplessness, much like you get when reading Marguerite Duras, who famously wrote many of her works in script-form, even though she had little intention of them being used as a script.  She wanted that Hemingway-ian distance.<br />
At any rate, capital job.  You are a phenom writer.</p>
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		<title>By: kaufman cautions &#171; .the various such.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] response to fitzgerald/ hemingway daringly entitled hemingway/ fitzgerald brings up some good points, namely, ernest was pretty [...]]]></description>
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